system not a government driven health care system. >> when you look at obama care, you see a government centered health care delivery system. that's not what the american people want. the american people want to be able to pick their own type of health insurance and pick their own doctor and pick their own hospital. >> let me get your response to this. obviously some people interpret the government centered for socialism, which has been some of the criticism. what is your response to the patient is not driving their health care here? >> well, if patients are not driving this, i would like to know why it is we are concerned about people being able to navigate the website and go through plan by plan by plan to select the plans they want. and that's what this is all about. that's not the government telling them this is your plan. we're laying out for the american people in some instances 25 and 30. i've gone through this myself to pick out the plan i want from among the various levels that are available. that is the patient -- or potential patient taking the kind of plan he or she wants to